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	<title>Comments on: The God of the Atheist</title>
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		<title>By: Clark  Goble</title>
		<link>http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2009/09/03/the-god-of-the-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark  Goble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dean ... thanks for the comment. I will apply at length soon ... I am a little under the gun for some overdue homework at the moment, so for now please just accept my welcome and thanks for the comment. I&#039;ll try to respond before the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dean &#8230; thanks for the comment. I will apply at length soon &#8230; I am a little under the gun for some overdue homework at the moment, so for now please just accept my welcome and thanks for the comment. I&#8217;ll try to respond before the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2009/09/03/the-god-of-the-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clarke,

I am a fellow blogger, well I used to be.  Time has eaten my blogging opportunities with enthusiasm as family and job have totally taken over.  I do what I can to post a funny, worthy or otherwise semi useful piece of content on my blog but that still has its challenges. 

The topic of religion has always fascinated me and throughout my life, despite the expectations I do define my religious opinion as atheist.  I phrase my position this way so not to get confused as calling atheism a religion as some will claim.  

I read your post and was struck by the slippery slope it took to reduce the only applicable deity as the Christian one.  I am not sure how you found yourself identified as an atheist in the first place but it appears you got there through more of an emotional path than a reasonable one.  I think that if you can make a claim that Jesus is the god for Atheists then how can you not make the claim it is the only god for anyone anywhere?  If you can apply it to the greatest of skeptic, then it seems as though you can apply it to believers of the supernatural as well.

This is not my main point, and I mainly have a question and observation about your post.  You said as an atheist, you always wondered about what if you were wrong.  I have heard the question asked of atheists before and the real question can always be asked of any position.  So I ask, as a Christian what if you are wrong?  The easy answer of course for you is a pascals wager type of answer.  You will win either way right?  If you are a christian and die you go to heaven, if you are a christian and there is no god and you die...irrelevant.  Christianity makes for a great insurance policy for many in this case.  

What is missing in this whole dialogue though is truth.  Now one of the more annoying things Christianity or any religion has done is adopt their beliefs as truth (especially when the believer goes so far as to kill for it).  Frankly it takes a very perverse approach to the concept when all faiths claim that they have it.  Atheists do it as well which makes it even more difficult to tackle.  But to this atheist it is the most important concept and pursuit their is.  One particular phrase I like is, you can have your own truth but you can not have your own facts.  I have been studying reality and facts to define truth about our world and the more I have, the less I have any belief in any supernatural concept.  That goes from gods to ghosts.  When I was young, my wish after death was less that there was a god or a heaven and more that a celestial book of truth existed that I could spend forever learning from.  Unfortunately I think that is even less probable of existing that any god. 

If you can base truth on faith you have it made but scientific method, technological method and pure reason would state that faith has very little if nothing to do with truth.  So I only make this point because I feel it is too important to gloss over when speaking about religion and offer it for true consideration in your pursuits.

Peace,

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clarke,</p>
<p>I am a fellow blogger, well I used to be.  Time has eaten my blogging opportunities with enthusiasm as family and job have totally taken over.  I do what I can to post a funny, worthy or otherwise semi useful piece of content on my blog but that still has its challenges. </p>
<p>The topic of religion has always fascinated me and throughout my life, despite the expectations I do define my religious opinion as atheist.  I phrase my position this way so not to get confused as calling atheism a religion as some will claim.  </p>
<p>I read your post and was struck by the slippery slope it took to reduce the only applicable deity as the Christian one.  I am not sure how you found yourself identified as an atheist in the first place but it appears you got there through more of an emotional path than a reasonable one.  I think that if you can make a claim that Jesus is the god for Atheists then how can you not make the claim it is the only god for anyone anywhere?  If you can apply it to the greatest of skeptic, then it seems as though you can apply it to believers of the supernatural as well.</p>
<p>This is not my main point, and I mainly have a question and observation about your post.  You said as an atheist, you always wondered about what if you were wrong.  I have heard the question asked of atheists before and the real question can always be asked of any position.  So I ask, as a Christian what if you are wrong?  The easy answer of course for you is a pascals wager type of answer.  You will win either way right?  If you are a christian and die you go to heaven, if you are a christian and there is no god and you die&#8230;irrelevant.  Christianity makes for a great insurance policy for many in this case.  </p>
<p>What is missing in this whole dialogue though is truth.  Now one of the more annoying things Christianity or any religion has done is adopt their beliefs as truth (especially when the believer goes so far as to kill for it).  Frankly it takes a very perverse approach to the concept when all faiths claim that they have it.  Atheists do it as well which makes it even more difficult to tackle.  But to this atheist it is the most important concept and pursuit their is.  One particular phrase I like is, you can have your own truth but you can not have your own facts.  I have been studying reality and facts to define truth about our world and the more I have, the less I have any belief in any supernatural concept.  That goes from gods to ghosts.  When I was young, my wish after death was less that there was a god or a heaven and more that a celestial book of truth existed that I could spend forever learning from.  Unfortunately I think that is even less probable of existing that any god. </p>
<p>If you can base truth on faith you have it made but scientific method, technological method and pure reason would state that faith has very little if nothing to do with truth.  So I only make this point because I feel it is too important to gloss over when speaking about religion and offer it for true consideration in your pursuits.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Dean</p>
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