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		<title>What is Open Theology?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is the first in a series that examines Open Theology. My hope is to examine the subject in a tone that is productive and amicable. What is Open Theology? David Woodruff defines Open Theology as “a form of &#8230; <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/02/04/what-is-open-theology/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/openmug.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1297" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="openmug" src="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/openmug-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="216" height="216" /></a>This post is the first in a series that examines Open Theology. My hope is to examine the subject in a tone that is productive and amicable.</p>
<p><strong>What is Open Theology?</strong></p>
<p align="left">David Woodruff defines Open Theology as “a form of relational theology” that starts “with the belief that God desires to be in a relationship with creation, and uses that belief as a basis for interpretation and explanation of other aspects of the divine nature” (Woodruff, 2008, p. 53). It is in light of this desire for relationship with His creation that Open Theists believe that God voluntarily self-limits His sovereign control over mankind and grants mankind genuine freedom of will. As a result of the freewill God’s creation possesses, Open Theology posits that while God has a perfect knowledge of the past and the present, His knowledge of the future is limited. God’s limitations in regards to future-knowledge is not attributed to any weakness of His own; rather, it is impossible for God to know the future because “the future free acts of human beings are not yet reality [because they have not yet happened] and, therefore, cannot be known” (Pinnock, 2005, p. 238). Thus, Open Theology concludes that while God’s knowledge of the future is limited, it is still perfect because He knows everything about the future that can be known. Even though God knows as much as can be known, the future is still <em>open </em>as a result of freewill. According to Open Theology, mankind’s freewill and God’s limited knowledge of the future work together to create a relationship between Creator and creation that is real and genuine. It is a relationship that mirrors all others and includes risk and faith on the part of Deity and man.</p>
<p>Open Theology is an attempt to make sense of Scriptures that seem to suggest that the God of the Bible does not have an exhaustive knowledge of the future. As a system, Open Theology offers the believer a lens through which to understand why there is so much evil in the world and the impact of Christian prayer. Additionally, Open Theology makes certain assumptions concerning the nature of time. Future posts in this series will offer an examination of Open Theology as it relates to each of these issues.</p>
<p><strong>Sources</strong></p>
<p>Pinnock, C. H. (2005). Open theism: An answer to my critics. <em>Dialog: A Journal of Theology, 44:3</em>, 237-245.</p>
<p>Woodruff, D. M. (2008). Examining problems and assumptions: An update on criticisms of open theism. <em>Dialog: A Journal of Theology, 47:1</em>, 53-63. <strong></strong></p>
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		<title>Books Read in 2012: No. 5 &#8211; A Defense of Calvinism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Title: A Defense of Calvinism Author: Charles Spurgeon Completed on January 20, 2012 The Calvinism verses Armenian debate is one that has been waged for quite awhile and seems to be heating up lately. For the record, I lean towards &#8230; <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/01/22/books-read-in-2012-no-5-a-defense-of-calvinism/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Defence.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1286" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="Defence" src="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Defence.jpg" alt="" width="160" height="160" /></a>Title: </strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/A-Defense-of-Calvinism-ebook/dp/B003MGKUV8/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_kin?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1327166972&amp;sr=1-1">A Defense of Calvinism </a><br />
<strong>Author: </strong>Charles Spurgeon<br />
<strong>Completed on January 20, 2012</strong></p>
<p>The Calvinism verses Armenian debate is one that has been waged for quite awhile and seems to be heating up lately. For the record, I lean towards Calvinism in my theology. If you are unfamiliar with the term, the five points of Calvinism can be summed up with the acronym TULIP:</p>
<p><strong>T: Total Depravity of Mankind</strong> &#8211; Sin has infected man to his very core. Our hearts, minds, and bodies are all affected by the disease of sin. Because of this, no effort of our own will can achieve salvation.</p>
<p><strong>U: Unconditional Election</strong> &#8211; God elects the saved through an act of His own gracious will. Some are elected while some are not.</p>
<p><strong>L: Limited Atonement &#8211; </strong>Jesus died for the elect. While His sacrifice was sufficient for all, it is not efficacious for all.</p>
<p><strong>I: Irresistible Grace &#8211; </strong>Those who are elected by God are unable to resist His calling.</p>
<p><strong>P: Perseverance of the Saints &#8211; </strong>Because election is an act of God, those who are so called are eternally secure in their salvation. Once saved, they are always saved.</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, I lean towards Calvinism. This isn&#8217;t to suggest that I am <em>entirely </em>comfortable with the manner in which it is often expressed. For instance, while the concept of Unconditional Election may be true, I don&#8217;t feel the discourse that surrounds it is always beneficial. I also have trouble with the concept of Limited Atonement as defined by Spurgeon. The Bible teaches that while it is easy to love those who love you in return, it is more rewarding to love those who are your enemies (Read Luke, Chapter 6). It is for this reason that I reject the notion that Christ only died for the elect. The notion  that Christ only died for those who would ultimately love Him seems to suggest that He acted in a particularly &#8220;un-Christ-like&#8221; fashion. I&#8217;m not suggesting that His sacrifice achieved salvation for <em>everyone</em>, but merely suggesting that His sacrifice affords <em>everyone </em>the opportunity of salvation.  That Christ died for everyone is the beauty of the Gospel. It is for this reason that I often say I believe in Unlimited Limited Atonement (a phrase borrowed from Mark Driscoll). Christ&#8217;s sacrifice was sufficient for all, but not efficacious for all.</p>
<p>Spurgeon vehemently disagrees with me. In this short essay, he makes an impassioned plea for Calvinism and argues that &#8220;to think [Christ] died for men who were or are in hell, seems a supposition too horrible for me to entertain.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my opinion, my quibble with Spurgeon seems to be one that is mostly semantic. Spurgeon, however, seems to find it a critical point of contention, &#8220;That Christ should offer an atonement and satisfaction for the sins of all men, and that afterwards some of those men should be punished for the sins for which Christ had already atoned, appears to me to be the most monstrous iniquity that could ever have been imputed to Saturn, to Janus, to the goddess of the Thugs, or to the most diabolical heathen deities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly, Spurgeon and I would both agree there is a hell and that some will unfortunately spend eternity in it. Likewise we would agree that the elect have a responsibility to respond to that irresistible call of God. Where we deviate from one another is in my suggestion that Christ loves humanity enough to die for everyone &#8211; even those who choose to ultimately reject Him. It is because of this conviction that I can look any person in the eye and tell them that <em>Christ died for them</em>.</p>
<p>Spurgeon&#8217;s essay is beneficial for those who are struggling to define their own doctrinal beliefs. It can easily be read in one sitting and is available on the Kindle for less than a dollar.</p>
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		<title>Books Read in 2012: No. 4 &#8211; Not a Fan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Title: Not a Fan Author: Kyle Idleman Competed on January 15, 2012 I was fortunate to read Idleman&#8217;s book immediately after Tozer&#8217;s The Pursuit of God. I say this because &#8220;Not a Fan&#8221; is the perfect counterpart to Tozer. Idleman &#8230; <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/01/21/books-read-in-2012-no-4-not-a-fan/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/notafan.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1278" title="notafan" src="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/notafan-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="210" height="210" /></a>Title: </strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Not-Fan-Becoming-Completely-Committed/dp/0310331935/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1327168275&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Not a Fan</a><br />
<strong>Author: </strong>Kyle Idleman<br />
<strong>Competed on January 15, 2012<br />
</strong></p>
<p>I was fortunate to read Idleman&#8217;s book immediately after Tozer&#8217;s <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/01/07/books-read-in-2012-no-2-the-pursuit-of-god/">The Pursuit of God</a>. I say this because &#8220;Not a Fan&#8221; is the perfect counterpart to Tozer. Idleman challenges the reader to identify themselves as a follower of Christ or a mere fan and presents the argument that many who identify themselves as the former are actually the latter.</p>
<p>Idleman presents a wonderful argument against the &#8220;cheap&#8221; Christianity that runs rampant in the Church and encourages his readers to &#8220;get to a place where following Jesus is so important to them, that if they lost everything it would still be worth it&#8221; (p. 66).</p>
<p>This book causes the reader to reflect upon his own faith. In my case, I was convicted in several areas of my life. I was able to recognize those parts of my life that I simply wasn&#8217;t prepared to surrender to Christ. It&#8217;s a simple concept really. When Christ asks us to give up everything to follow Him, what is the one thing you would refuse to let go of? This may be a simple concept but is difficult in practice. If Christ isn&#8217;t want we hold most dear, we are a fan &#8211; not a follower.</p>
<p>While Tozer&#8217;s book placed in me the desire to pursue Christ daily, Idleman&#8217;s gave me a practical vision of what such a pursuit entails.</p>
<p>This book will certainly be added to my list of recommended reading.</p>
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		<title>Books Read in 2012: No. 1 &#8211; 10 People Every Christian Should Know</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Title: 10 People Every Christian Should Know Author: Warren W. Wiersbe Completed on January 1, 2012 Note: My friend Ty Johnston uses his blog to log and review every single book he reads throughout the year. While I often offer &#8230; <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/01/05/books-read-in-2012-no-1-10-people-every-christian-should-know/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/10People.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1248" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="10People" src="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/10People-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="119" height="180" /></a>Title: </strong>10 People Every Christian Should Know<br />
<strong>Author: </strong>Warren W. Wiersbe<br />
<strong>Completed on January 1, 2012<br />
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<p><strong>Note:</strong> My friend Ty Johnston uses his <a href="http://tyjohnston.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">blog</a> to log and review every single book he reads throughout the year. While I often offer book reviews here on the I.D. blog, I often fail to mention many of the books I&#8217;ve read. One of my resolutions this year is to follow Ty&#8217;s example and log <em>every </em>book I read in 2012. Let&#8217;s hope I make it past February!</p>
<p><strong>Review: </strong>This shortened version of Wiersbe&#8217;s book <em>50 People Every Christian Should Know </em>is available on the Kindle for under three dollars and is well worth the price. Weirsbe offers insight into the lives of ten pretty interesting Christians. including; Matthew Henry, Jonathon Edwards, A.W. Tozer, John Henry Newman, J.B. Lightfoot, J. Hudson Taylor, Charles, Spurgeon, Amy Carmichael, and Oswald Chambers.</p>
<p>Of the ten offerings I was somewhat familiar with all but two, however, it was the profile that I knew the least about that was of the most benefit. I had heard of A.W. Tozer before but knew little about the man. Weirsbe describes Tozer as a Christian mystic and lays out a plan for the reader to attack Tozer&#8217;s writing. Intrigued, I picked up a copy of Tozer&#8217;s <em>Pursuit of God </em>and was blown away! It was a book that I would have never discovered if not for Weirsbe. This is the value of Weirsbe&#8217;s little book; it points the reader in the direction of other gems to discover.</p>
<p>As a result, I highly recommend <em>10 People Every Christian Should Know </em>and look forward to picking up a copy of the expanded version when I get the chance.</p>
<p>Happy reading, Clark.</p>
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		<title>Eliminating the Ands</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his book Pursuing God, A.W. Tozer challenges readers to identify what it is in addition to God they are seeking. Tozer puts it this way, “The evil habit of seeking God-and effectively prevents us from finding God in full &#8230; <a href="http://theimperfectdisciples.com/index.php/2012/01/03/eliminating-the-ands/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>In his book <em>Pursuing God</em>, A.W. Tozer challenges readers to identify what it is in addition to God they are seeking. Tozer puts it this way, “The evil habit of seeking <em>God-and </em>effectively prevents us from finding God in full revelation. In the ‘<em>and</em>’ lies our greatest woe. If we omit the ‘<em>and</em>’ we shall soon find God, and in Him we shall find that for which we have all our lives been secretly longing.”</p>
<p>As I read Tozer’s words for the first time the other day, I couldn’t help but fill in the ‘<em>and’</em>. What I discovered was frightening. It seems there has always been an ‘<em>and’ </em>in my life. Rather than seeking God alone, I have tended to attach other desires to Him and elevate them to equal status. Financial security, doctrine, influence, recognition, love of the world … I could probably fill this page with my list of ‘<em>ands’. </em></p>
<p>Ironically, not all ‘<em>ands’ </em>are bad. For instance, there is nothing wrong with praying for and striving to achieve financial security for your family. The danger, however, is when we elevate the <em>‘ands’ </em>to equal status with God. It turns us into fair-weathered Christians who recognize and praise God only when our ‘<em>ands’ </em>are being attended to.  Our love for God becomes contingent upon the fulfillment of those sacred desires we have attached to Him.</p>
<p>When our <em>ands </em>suffer, we find ourselves turning away from God.</p>
<p>God promises that He is all we need. The Bible suggests that that if we seek God first all our other needs will fall into place (Matthew 6:33). I’ve reached a point in my life where all I want is God. I want to let go of my <em>ands </em>and allow Him to sustain my life.</p>
<p>I’m not confident I can do it. But my deepest desire is to seek Him first. I want to elevate God to the proper station in my life. I want Him set above and beyond all other desires of my heart. I’m confident that if God comes first I can survive the loss of everything else.</p>
<p>You may ask how I plan to achieve the elimination of my <em>ands</em>. As I write this, I only have the vaguest of plans. I hope to begin by taking the advice of 1 Thessalonians 5:18 and offering praise to God in all circumstances. Too often, I praise God when things go well for me and curse Him when things go awry. By praising God in all things, I hope to blur the line between the secular and the sacred. I want every moment of my life, even the mundane moments, to be cast in His shadow.</p>
<p>I have come to realize that nothing but God will ever truly satisfy me. And my prayer is that this is the year I put things in their proper order.</p>
<p>How about you? What are your <em>ands</em>? Is there anything in your life you have placed on equal status with God? If so, pick up a copy of Tozer’s <em>Pursuit of God </em>and join me in eliminating them.</p>
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